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[00:00:00] Speaker A: An old Aussie artist there. I've got Paul in the studio. We'll chat a bit later. Rick Springfield, an old Aussie. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Yep. [00:00:09] Speaker A: It goes back on 40, 50 years, I think. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Back in the 70s and 80s it was. You think 80s is 30, 50 years ago. [00:00:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And he went to America now. I think he was in General Hospital as well. Yep. But his big hit was Don't Talk Strangers, I think. [00:00:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And was it Jesse's Girl, Rick? [00:00:28] Speaker A: That's it. Jesse's Girl was another one. Yes. So, Paul, you're obviously a music man, knowing those. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah, a little bit. I've got a bit of a background. [00:00:38] Speaker A: And what are you doing now, Paul? What brings you to IPL radio? [00:00:43] Speaker B: Well, come to talk to the powers that be about helping out with video streaming. [00:00:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Doing some live streaming with sporting events and different events that we can live stream. So taking the radio basically to the [00:00:57] Speaker A: next level, how does that happen? What happens? [00:01:01] Speaker B: Well, basically we've. I set up a broadcast tent, a portable broadcast tent. So basically it's like a podcast setup, but for video. And we can take that tank to any events. We've been doing local NRL games this season, and we set up the tent. We take cheerleaders with us, we take face painters. We set up a whole event and we can stream it all live from there through Starlink. Connection to the power, not to YouTube or Twitch, to any streaming platform we want. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Wow. And so it's obvious. So talk to me, even just for. We just pick one of the subjects. Starlink. Yeah, that's Elon Musk's. Yeah. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's a mobile Internet connection. You have your little dish. You set up and set up a local network there and you plug all your computers in. Plug all, like your computer for say, so like you're. You're mixing desk for the audio. We can do the same thing. We can. We actually have that software that we use and we can stream. Yeah. Basically take outdoor broadcasting to the next level for. For sporting events. And. [00:02:07] Speaker A: And is it easy? Is it an easy concept to. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It's. So it's really simple. It's. But as you know, costs, they're the main things. The cost is buying the equipment and bits and pieces. I was just lucky enough to have some money that I could invest into it. And now that money's gone and I've got all the equipment, we have to start using it. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Wow. So what would be. What would be an example of what. What we could do with this, Paul? [00:02:37] Speaker B: Okay, so the. This radio station Say we wanted to do an open day and you wanted to have people come down and have a look around, see what you do. Caught some potential sponsors, get more volunteers down and they want to have a look at what, what goes on. We could set up, set up a marquee at the car park and we can set up all the broadcast stuff there. We could send you a feed. We can do whatever we want through the powers of the Internet and we can basically live stream it to YouTube so anyone who's got a YouTube account can watch. So Facebook, even if you've got enough followers on Facebook, we can stream it to your Facebook account and then you can do a live stream on Facebook without temp. We can like we also have a few other bits and pieces. Like we have cheerleaders and we have Betty the Bear, the mascot. And we come down, we put on an event, we entertain the kids, we entertain the adults who give out the information. We show them around our setup. You can show them around your setup. And we make it and basically make a day of it. You set up a barbecue at the front, want, do fundraisers, do whatever you want. And it's. [00:03:36] Speaker A: So if there was a, let's say we say a fate or whatever you like, want to call it the Lions, who, a lot of them, you know, have these functions. You're saying we could set up a broadcast from there? Yes, with IPL and broadcast it live? [00:03:55] Speaker B: Yep, pretty much, yeah. Anyway, yeah, as long as we can get that Internet connection. You can, we can do, yeah, full broadcast. We've got three blackmagic cameras. We've got a few different lens selections we can use. We've got the cameras that are all set up for wireless. So the camera can be 100 meters away from the broadcast tent and we can stream it back through wireless connections to the desk. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Wow. So what's it say? A black magic camera. Did you know? What is it? [00:04:24] Speaker B: Basically, blackmagic cameras are a film broadcast quality camera in a nice compact design so that people, you can either like our ones are 4K but you can go right up to 12K 20K cameras. You can go to full broadcast movie cameras with these guys. And we obviously use, we use blackmagic design for editing our videos and things. And basically if, if someone wanted to, we can. And we're going to be doing this in the near future. We're going to be actually making videos place around Betty the Bear, our mascot. And so we're going to be making children's videos and they'll be available on the Website. Our website. And they'll be hopefully broadcast on Nada tv, which is a indigenous TV station around the Pilbara and things. So we'll be helping making content for them as well. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Jeez. So how many in your. If you like that, your setup, how many people? [00:05:18] Speaker B: Well, there's myself, who does all the technical bits and pieces and puts it all together. I have my son who's doing film production and TV production at TAFE at the moment, and he's going to be going to university next year to push his career there. So he comes in and helps out as well. And we basically volunteers who want to learn how to use the equipment, get their skill levels up, they can come along and we can teach them, show them. And. Yeah, so because it's a. It's a. It's basically brand new, what we're doing, it's now a matter of finding people to come down and. And find a new career, because it's the skills that you can take from doing, say, an outdoor broadcast of a sporting event to, say, an award ceremony, a fight, to actually just making content or for your own YouTube channel, there you learning how to use cameras, how to edit. [00:06:13] Speaker A: So when I'm only. Yeah, because I. Technical Nuffy, as I say, so, and. And I'm trying to sort of work around this in my head. What's the difference between. And. I'm not trying to sound morbid here, but when somebody passes away, they. Quite often you can get the link to the funeral. Is that what you guys do or. Why? How is it different if it's not. [00:06:50] Speaker B: It's different in this. In the way that. Because we would transmit to YouTube, anyone can watch. It's not a link. It's not private as such. We don't have any private connections. It's all free for people to watch, [00:07:07] Speaker A: which is different to a link. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah, so you just go onto YouTube, type in YouTube and. And the YouTube channel that we have set up that you want to stream to. So one podcast we do which is not remote is the barefax podcast, which is a. A podcast on the Perth Bears. And we have a couple guys over the eastern states, one in Queensland, one in the North Shore and North Northern Beaches of New South Wales, where the North Sydney Bears hang out, which are part of Perth Bears, now the feeder clubs. And once a week we. I get online, similar setup to what you have here at the radio station. But I just bring in the people from all around Australia, all around the world. But in our case it's Queensland, New South Wales. And what we do, we just stream it to YouTube. Live stream to YouTube. Or we can record it and then upload it. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Wow. [00:08:00] Speaker B: It's, it's quite, yeah, it's, it's like you're having your, your 12 year old kid in his bedroom streaming a computer game, screaming at the screens and mum and dad yelling, be quiet, I'm trying to watch TV or something. He's there playing his computer game, streaming out to the world. You could have, you know, millions of viewers all around the world. And we're just taking that concept and taking it to local sport and anyone else who wants to, you know, promote their stuff. Wow. And the thing is, what, what we're doing it, we're doing it so it's free. Free to the club or the, the client if they don't pay for anything. We, we try. What we want to do is get sponsors in so the sponsor pays for the deal. So like at the football matches, when we're doing footy matches, kids could come in and get their face painted, they'd get a balloon, they'd get a Betty the Bear wristband, they get a badge. And we were charging 10 bucks per child to get their face painted. Or $20 would get you two or three kids done. Because parents these days, cost of living can't, you know, you go to an event, you know, these costs will add up. So what we want to do is keep the cost down so the kids can enjoy themselves. And then when, if the kids are enjoying themselves, the parents can spend more time watching the sport, engaging with their friends that are at the clubs and whatever and everyone has a fun time all the way around. And if the sponsors can then pay for that, that, that money that the people get, the, all the entertainment for free. Sponsors get advertising, they get that community engagement every weekend. And the numbers that we reach are really, you know, are pretty big for community sport. So we went to one event on, on the Sunday where they had junior sports. And so these are all under 17s right down to under tens and whatever. And, and they can have, you know, a thousand to fifteen hundred people around the field that day. So it gives people and potential sponsors 1500 or up to 50. You know, some clubs get more people but we keeping it modest saying a thousand people on a Sunday, you can get access to a thousand faces every Sunday for XYZ cost. And then, then there's also Saturdays we go to games and then we've now got interest from other clubs and other codes. So the, the rugby league has now got competition with NBL1 soccer clubs, because they see the value in it. There's. They're getting stuff for their club, promotes their club, promotes healthy environment, promotes fun entertainment. It brings everything together. So we can take that anyway, so it's not. You're not limited to sporting clubs. We can take that. So you had an awards night. We can set it up there as well. We can do. [00:10:57] Speaker A: And you can YouTube it. That's. That's what you. Yeah, there's no link. You just. You. [00:11:01] Speaker B: I just stream it straight to YouTube channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:11:04] Speaker A: So I can go on YouTube, whatever. And I think, oh, well, this is the awards night and this is what's happening. [00:11:10] Speaker B: So say IPL had their. Had a YouTube channel. I'm not sure if they do or not. If they have a YouTube channel. We. We can set up to live stream straight to the IPL YouTube channel. So it doesn't have to go through our channels. We can actually go through the club's channels. We just put in their details into the streaming software and connect away. And so you may have an event where you have an awards night, but some people can't make it. They want to watch it. They can then watch it live, or they can come back a day later and watch it whenever they feel fit. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:44] Speaker B: And it's not much different to what you're doing here at all. Not much different at all. [00:11:48] Speaker A: So we could basically, if. If we had your camera set up, we could be direct YouTube live. [00:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I believe you've got, like, there's cameras here in the studio. And I believe you guys have got the same software, streaming software package that I use. So realistically, you could be doing it already with your own and stuff. You're doing it audio. Yeah. It's not hard to switch to video. I think the law. There's laws around the music and copyright and things, but. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I know what you mean. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. So is there. Is there many? Are you. Where are you based? [00:12:26] Speaker B: Generally in Rockingham, we're in Rockingham, but we've gone up to Northern Beaches. We've gone up to Joondalup. We've been down. Or we've come down to, obviously, Quinana. Rockingham at Lark Hill. Rockingham Rugby league at Lark Hill. We've been there. That was our first ever day there. We had Betty the Bear, our mascot. She was out entertaining the kids. And, yeah, it was. It's just grown. Every week it's grown. There's been something else come along. We've added this, we've added that. [00:12:53] Speaker A: So something Like, I'm only taking things out which are a lot of people know about. So something like the beach day races at Rockingham, you could be involved in that and telecast that live. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Without a doubt. [00:13:08] Speaker A: And that would be huge for the. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a few other companies out there doing it that do sporting events. The. The main one that does it. Which do the main games for the nrl Wa. The rugby league games, which the. They do a marvelous job. They generally only have one camera where we've got multiple cameras and we're not trying to push anyone out the market. We don't want to take their work for them. But what we want to do is go to other games that they can't do, and we can do that. And because we've got three cameras, the whole purpose of it is to teach other people new skills. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:45] Speaker B: And, you know, if they want to come learn how to drive a camera will show them how to use a camera. If they want to do directing, editing. Yeah, it's. [00:13:54] Speaker A: So can you film a, like a AFL match or footy match? [00:14:00] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And is the camera work okay? Like. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because they're all on a tripod and on gimbals and harnesses and bits and pieces. We've got LiDAR set up on one of the cameras, but the. It's hard to track the ball because it's so small, moves so fast. So you generally gotta use the tracking. Pick a player, highlight that player, track that player, and then that camera will then just track that player. Or no matter where they go on the field, the camera will track them. And so we can basically pretty much have it so that there's no camera operator on that camera. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Wow. But the actual game's a little bit harder because the ball moves so quickly. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Yes. If you track the ball, it's makes it harder, but if you track something bigger, you can track a player running around the field. And then what happens is if the camera loses the tracking, you just switch over to another camera, get the cameraman to retrack another player or take over and do manual control. And. Yeah, it's. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Jeez. So how. How do people get involved with this, Paul? We. [00:15:05] Speaker B: We haven't really been promoting it much at the moment because we're still. We're just coming to the end of the NRL season. We're having a bit of a break. Once that's we're all over and done with and we reset, ready for next season, we'll be advertising on our YouTube channels. Facebook channels, talking to people like yourself, getting involved with people like yourself. But the funny thing is, is that we have not had to advertise to go to any other clubs or any other sports. They've just seen what we're doing and they've come up to us and booked us in on the spot for the following week or the two weeks in advance or they just said we, we want you at our games. And it's funny because we like, we have cheerleaders, we go there with a team of five or six cheerleaders. They do tunnels for the kids when they run on or even the adults. We do the senior games as well. So they do tunnels and because we've got the audio system, we do announcements for players that are having milestone games. So you know, they get a bit of a kudos. They can hear the name on the loudspeakers. They, they get the cheerleaders run through the cheerleaders and their pom poms and yeah, it's, it's, it's great. It's like going to a first grade rugby league game over in the east where they got the cheerleaders or an NFL game. They just recently had an NFL game. They're pretty big on the cheerleaders and people don't realize how much the cheerleaders bring to an event because they're pretty girls and they're, and they're in the pom poms. Unfortunately, we don't have any guys yet. We hope to get some guys in there and get them trained it up especially around stunts and things. But what happens is they, they engage the people, they talk to the people. They, when they're talking to people, engaging to people that it's a perfect opportunity for them to, to, you know, talk to people about our sponsors and products. Elite supplements in Rockingham, they sponsor the, the cheerleaders. [00:16:53] Speaker A: And that's one in the shorts. Yenda. [00:16:55] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, they're also in Armadale and when we spoke to them they were like, yeah, we love, we want to get involved. There was no trying to convince them that, you know, we've got so many followers on Facebook or this and that that it was like, no, yeah, it's great. They just jumped straight on board and it's been a great relationship. Yeah. [00:17:14] Speaker A: So what about Paul, as you always been you, have you always been involved in music and media and, and have you still work, paid work in it? [00:17:24] Speaker B: No, I'm pretty much doing this full time. I don't get paid for it. It's basically a hobby. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:31] Speaker B: I did some music years and years ago in radio. I used to be when the community radio station was in Rockingham way back in the 90s, 101.7. I was there for a little bit of a stint, had a, had a show on there. And then from that I also did some work when I was up in Cairns with a friend of mine who was an overnight announcer up in Cairns many, many years ago. I used to do DJing in clubs and pubs and hotels and all that type of stuff. Been on tv, some TV commercials or one TV commercial for rac, which you can't find anymore. I must have been pretty bad in that one. And so it's always been a background hobby. Yeah, it's always been one of those things that like in the. Not in the 90s and in the 2000s, it was always just out of reach for people to get into the industry because they didn't have the Internet as, as good as what we've got it now. The equipment was expensive and not as cheap as it is now because you can get some pretty decent gear at decent prices out of China. What most people do off Temu and things and, and so now it's more accessible for people. But when it comes to the older generation, like our generation, people say, oh, I'm not very good with technology. And it's like, well, you don't have to have that attitude anymore because everything's there in front of you to learn and your brain is a sponge that can suck up information and the more you learn, the more skills you get and develop over the time and practice, practice, practice. And next thing you know you've got a whole different range of options of career moves and you don't have to have to do it full time. You can still make a passive income out of it through ads on Google or sponsorship deals. And it doesn't have to be a million dollars worth. You don't have to make a million dollars worth just as long as it's enough to make you happy and pay a bit more, you know, for your gardening hobby or whatever. [00:19:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So have you been approached by many sporting clubs this year in Rockingham or. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah, all of them just. Well, all the rugby league ones. Rockingham Sharks, we' Quinata Titans, the Serpentine Serpents who are just juniors that don't even have a senior team. We've been been approached by them. Bis Rugby B AFL club. They want us to, they want to book us in for next year as well. So we get a. Because we travel around. We, we get invites and requests all around the metro area. [00:20:10] Speaker A: So what's a major request? What, what do they, what do they come to you and say, like, we [00:20:15] Speaker B: love what you're doing. Can you come to our club, please? [00:20:19] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Because, basically, because part of the stuff we do, we also, with Betty the Bear and the cheerleaders, we do things like color and ink competitions so the kids can come down. We've got buckets of pencils, we print out all the pictures of the cheerleaders and Betty the Bear, and they come down, they color them in, and Betty the Bear, you know, does a. Picks three of the best pictures and gives them the prize. And, you know, depending on where we can get prizes from toy mate, we're talking to you. You know, so kids come down, they get, they, they come down and they sit there for, for hours just coloring in and talking to the cheerleaders and they do mini cheerleading dances. So they learn how to do cheese stuff. So they learn how dance moves. And it's amazing how many of the kids just love that engagement and get involved. And the parents, they just, they get, they get, you know, an hour of peace and quiet for them to watch the game. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah. So if people want to take the next step, how do they, you know, the, the old cliche. How do they get in contact with you, Paul? [00:21:25] Speaker B: We don't have contacts up at the moment. They can get us through the Rubies website. So it's therubies dance as R U [00:21:32] Speaker A: B ies I E S Rub. Rubies. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah, Dot dance. So it's not dot com or dot com. I use dot dance. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Rubies dance. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a Rubies dance. They can send us a message through there. If they go on the Barefax, social media pages, YouTube, they can always send us a message through there. So it's rubies.com and that. Dance. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. Rubies dot dance. Okay, well, it's been great. I. I mean, I hope we can get some of this technical whiz bang stuff happening at IPL as well, Paul. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Well, we're gonna give it a shot for you and see what we can do and hopefully get Betty the Bear down here. Because Betty the Bear. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Well, let's see, that's the thing, you know, being in this seat for a few years now, I. The astounding thing is how many things are going. You want to say things, how many events, how many community groups there are in Rockingham. And it's astounding. Yeah, absolutely. And you think what I didn't know they were here. I didn't know they were there. Well, you know, would be a. I don't know, a ladies group or a Rotary group or whatever. It's just astounding. Yeah. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. There's lots of them. That's. [00:22:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:43] Speaker B: And it's good to be able to get involved with them as well. [00:22:46] Speaker A: I think that's the thing, isn't it? Like, you know, the community engagement's just amazing. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Y. [00:22:52] Speaker A: All right, Paul. Well, thank you. [00:22:54] Speaker B: No, thank you for having me. [00:22:55] Speaker A: And hopefully we can catch up with again. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Without a doubt. [00:22:58] Speaker A: And we'll finish. I will finish off. I'll just put your music on. Thanks again.